Why men become paedobaptists...

A link on Conrad Mbewe's blog lead me to a fascinating interview with Paul Levy of the International Presbyterian Church in London.  I almost know Paul; I've met him, I know his brother Steve and I read a fair bit of the stuff Paul writes.

Now Paul grew up in a Baptist home in South Wales.  His Dad's a Baptist.  His brother's a Baptist.  Paul is a Presbyterian.  What went wrong?

This interview confirmed for me again something I've noticed before, and it's always true.  If you ask a man (or woman, though I don't think I ever have) why he (or she) became a Baptist, his answer will start something like this: 'The more I read the Bible...'  But if you ask a paedobaptist why he (she?)  became p/b, they will always start something like this: 'I read this book on the covenants...'  In Paul's case, it was Palmer Robertson's book, and then Schaeffer 'tipped him over'.

Nobody ever, it seems, becomes a paedobaptist through reading the Bible.  Interesting, that.

Preaching and 'different types of learning'

I'm reproducing these posts from the Ref21 folks, completely without permission, but I don't think they'll mind.  The issue is so important it needs to be as widely aired as possible; and it may be that one of my readers (or, indeed, both of them) don't see Ref21:

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What's Your Learning Style? (Aimee Byrd) Posted: 04 Feb 2014 07:52 AM PST Todd wrote a great piece challenging Donald Miller's recent post, excusing why he doesn't go to church. It just so happens that science wouldn't agree with Miller's argument either. In his post, Miller bluntly expresses, "So to be brutally honest, I don't learn much about God hearing a sermon," claiming, "I've studied psychology and education reform long enough to know a traditional lecture isn't for everybody." And then Miller educates us, "Research suggest there are three learning styles, auditory (hearing) visual (seeing) and kinesthetic (doing) and I'm a kinesthetic learner." Does it? Not according to Popular Science. In an article Everything You've Been Told About How You Learn Is A Lie, Shaunacy Ferro reveals, "Many of the theories of 'brain-based' education, a method of instruction supposedly based on neuroscience, have been largely debunked by rigorous science. Brain-based education studies are usually poorly designed and badly controlled. Nevertheless, myths about how we learn persist in the popular imagination, and, most importantly, in educational materials and references for teachers." It turns out that teaching to particular learning styles does not improve learning. And there is no good research that proves that it is more difficult for students to be educated outside of their so-called learning style. Of course, Todd addresses the fact that going to church is not a me-centered activity, and that we don't assemble together merely to improve our spiritual education by connecting to God on our own terms. He reminds us, "Worship is not about my 'connecting with God.' Worship is about my giving God his due in the ways that he has prescribed in his Word." Interestingly, God has determined that all of us share in a particular so-called learning style when it comes to spiritual growth. He has prescribed a means to bless his people in Christ, the preached Word and the sacraments. And so we have Jesus declaring in the Great Commission how he will grow his kingdom: And Jesus came and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age." (Matt. 28:18-20) And we see this very thing in Acts 2:42: And they devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching and the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and the prayers. You see, learning my own way isn't good enough. I need to be changed. And it is the power of God's Word that does that in the means that he has prescribed. To echo Todd again, "What is more, in Christ we do not have to find ways to connect with God. God has connected to us through Christ!" Let us not refuse the Father's generosity to bless us in the Son, who is much more than a learning style. He is worthy of our corporate worship, which is an eschatological event. It is a privilege to partake in the covenantal renewal ceremony, where we get a taste of the future breaking into the present. Like Miller, we all get caught up in our week of accomplishing and we slip into our default mode of thinking we are the ones who create meaning. But we are summoned to gather on Sunday, to be interrupted by our own thinking, stripped by the law of God, and clothed by his gospel grace. Only after this receiving Christ through his preached Word and the sacraments are we then sent out as salt and light. Miller reasons that he connects with God elsewhere through his own means. God has condescended to connect with his people. I would say that it is imperative that we connect with God the way he has called us to in Christ.

Do not forsake the assembly (Todd Pruitt) Posted: 03 Feb 2014 08:13 PM PST I was saddened but not at all surprised to read Donald Miller's recent disclosure that he does not attend a church. I was sad because one cannot be a Christian and reject Christ's body, his bride, his building. Christians are made and grown in the body of Christ. I was not, however, surprised because this is an all too predictable trajectory for those within the emergent/neo-liberal wing of Protestantism. I also admit to feeling sorry for Miller as I read his post. I am not trying to be condescending. He certainly does not need my pity. But pity him I do for his impoverishment of understanding of Christ and his church. As a result he is robbing himself of the very ways that God has promised to nourish him. There are several things that came to mind as I read Miller's post: 1. Worship is not about finding a way of personally "connecting to God." Miller writes, "I attended a church service that had, perhaps, the most talented worship team I've ever heard. I loved the music. But I loved it more for the music than the worship. As far as connecting with God goes, I wasn't feeling much of anything." Miller has gained a large following critiquing the church. But here he displays a juvenile understanding of the nature and purpose of worship. It is ironic that Miller embraces the same sorts of expectations that led to the rise of the consumer church which the emergent movement so strongly critiques. Worship is not about my "connecting with God." Worship is about my giving God his due in the ways that he has prescribed in his Word. What is more, in Christ we do not have to find ways to connect with God. God has connected to us through Christ! The work has been done. Atonement has been made. Justice has been satisfied and now we are united to Christ through faith. "Connecting to God" is a less than helpful part of the lexicon of the new evangelicalism. It has as many definitions as there are people to use it. 2. I, Me, My Miller's reflections are all about his personal preferences and experiences. Certainly there is a place for this to a certain extent. We want to be appropriately introspective. I am a bit of an introvert so I understand this. But nowhere does Miller attempt to talk back to his "me-centeredness." Indeed, he seems to indulge it. Personal preferences and learning styles seem to be the chief concern in determining whether or not he will be a part of the church or participate in worship with God's people. 3. The church can be identified. The church is not an atmosphere. It is not some sort of universal principle. The church is a concrete and identifiable reality. However, Miller writes, "But I also believe the church is all around us, not to be confined by a specific tribe" (He invites us to tweet this). Why does he believe this? It is not taught in the Bible. So I can only guess that Miller has developed this theology of the church from his own personal preferences. It is true that the church is universal, consisting of all those throughout the world who profess faith in Jesus Christ. But we worship with, serve with, and grow with brothers and sisters in a local church. The epistles were written to local congregations. Most of the instructions to the church in the New Testament are applied to the church as she is known in local congregations. At the risk of sounding like a rube, I don't know what Miller means when he writes that "the church is all around us." I wonder if he even knows what he means. 4. The church is not primarily about my learning. Throughout the post Miller assumes that Sunday gatherings are primarily about him learning something. And while we certainly assemble to hear the Word of God proclaimed, this is not simply to learn something. It is about worship. It is about building up our brothers and sisters. And it is about having our hearts shaped by the means God has ordained for this purpose. God uses the proclamation of the Word to produce faith in the unbelieving and holiness in his people. The fact is, people have always preferred more kinesthetic ways of learning. The prophets were routinely ignored. Preaching was considered foolish in Paul's day. When man invents a religion it is generally weighted toward sense experiences and mysticism. But one of the distinguishing facets of biblical faith has always been its heavy reliance on words. God's exodus people hated this. They called on Aaron to make a God they could experience kinesthetically while Moses was on the mountain getting more words. When God creates, he speaks. When God reveals himself, he speaks. God has made his people to be an auditory lot. And he did this without consulting education theorists. 5. False choices Miller writes some very helpful comments about the goodness of work as a means of enjoying God. Unfortunately he sees this as an alternative to worshiping with the body of Christ on the Lord's Day. The Reformed faith would be a great benefit for Miller in this for its robust doctrines of creation and vocation. It is the Reformers who reasserted the goodness of work as a means by which we glorify and enjoy God. But this is never to be seen as a replacement to our responsibility to gather with God's people. 6. What we believe about Scripture matters. The issues Miller discusses are addressed in Scripture. The Bible tells us what worship is, what the church is, and what it means to be a part of the body of Christ. But Miller seems to give more weight to educational theory than he does to the Scriptures. In fact, at no point does he reflect on what God's Word teaches. Instead he makes reference to unspecified research about learning styles. Of course, there is really no surprise here. What happened in the now unhip emergent movement was simply rehashed, though less intelligent, Protestant Liberalism. When the doctrines of the Scripture's inerrancy and authority are discarded so too, in time, will everything else. Miller suggests that God's people gathered together for praise, prayer and the proclamation of the Word is merely "the traditional church model." It's easy to dismiss something that is "traditional." It's even easier to dismiss a "model." What Miller does not seem to understand is that God has prescribed for his people to gather on the Lord's Day to sing, pray, give, receive the sacraments, and hear God's Word proclaimed. It is not mere model. Miller dismisses the revealed will of God for his church with a very simple wave of the hand. I am not trying to pick on Donald Miller. I am concerned because he is an influencer. And what he is teaching about the church, the Scriptures, and obedience to God is dangerous. It is a prescription for spiritual demise. I am concerned because Donald's story will not end well if he continues to starve himself of the ways God has determined to feed his flock. "Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for he who promised is faithful. And let us consider how to stir up one another to love and good works, not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near." (Hebrews 10:23-25 ESV) "Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly as you teach and admonish one another with all wisdom, and as you sing psalms, hymns and spiritual songs with gratitude in your hearts to God."  (Colossians 3:16 ESV) "And he gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the shepherds and teachers, to equip the saints for the work of ministry, for building up the body of Christ, until we all attain to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to mature manhood, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ, so that we may no longer be children, tossed to and fro by the waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by human cunning, by craftiness in deceitful schemes. Rather, speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in every way into him who is the head, into Christ, from whom the whole body, joined and held together by every joint with which it is equipped, when each part is working properly, makes the body grow so that it builds itself up in love." (Ephesians 4:11-16 ESV) "And they devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching and the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and the prayers. And awe came upon every soul, and many wonders and signs were being done through the apostles. And all who believed were together and had all things in common. And they were selling their possessions and belongings and distributing the proceeds to all, as any had need. And day by day, attending the temple together and breaking bread in their homes, they received their food with glad and generous hearts, praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord added to their number day by day those who were being saved." (Acts 2:42-47 ESV) Suggested Reading: The Church by Edmund Clowney The Glorious Body of Christ by R.B. Kuiper The Enduring Community by Habig & Newsome The Church by Mark Dever On Being Presbyterian by Sean Michael Lucas A Better Way by Michael Horton Rhythms of Grace by Mike Cosper

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